No, We Are Not OK After That ‘Succession’ Shocker

Justine Lupe and Alan Ruck in Episode 3, Season 4 of 'Succession.'
Justine Lupe and Alan Ruck in Episode 3, Season 4 of 'Succession.'
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It’s no shock that Connor’s wedding ceremony was not really about Connor. (He “is the eldest son,” however he will get no respect.)

However Season 4, Episode 3 of hit HBO drama “Succession” took a flip that we weren’t fairly prepared for: Logan Roy, billionaire media tycoon, is lifeless. For weeks, we’ve speculated on that individual storyline, however one thing about Sunday’s episode hit totally different.

See what Marina Fang, Candice Frederick, Ruth Etiesit Samuel and Erin E. Evans needed to say in regards to the episode.

Our 'Succession' Predictions For What Occurs Subsequent

I imply, the siblings must get actual personalities now, no? Past that, there goes their already flimsy alliance. I think about that can instantly disband and so they’ll be again at one another’s throats now, harking back to the sooner period of “Succession.” — Candice

I’m unsure, however I foresee the combat over who will get the throne turning into particularly nasty. I’m not ready for the way vile the Roy siblings are going to grow to be. When you thought they have been unhealthy earlier than? Child, you’ve acquired an enormous storm comin’! What I do know is that the Tv Academy must go forward and get their Emmys engraved. Each. Single. One. Of. Them. — Ruth

Talking of Gerri, it’s telling that each one the non-family Waystar executives have been scrambling to answer Logan’s demise, like Karolina speeding out a press release earlier than the markets closed for the weekend, and Frank instructing Hugo: “For market competence, it will be significant for Karl, myself and Gerri to be talked about by title."

Sure, to the youngsters, all of it appears so chilly. However to them, they’re doing their jobs. I take into consideration that Gerri second on the finish of Season 3 continually: "Effectively, I am centered on no matter consequence greatest serves the monetary pursuits of the shareholders of the corporate. But it surely does not serve my pursuits? How does it serve my pursuits?"

Their pursuits: to not let these youngsters run the corporate into the bottom. Very curious to see what the Gerri/Karl/Frank trifecta tries to cook dinner up throughout this jockeying for energy, and the way Karolina and Hugo attempt to spin it. — Marina

That Gerri quote is iconic, and I give it some thought on a regular basis. — Candice

All of this appears like a full-circle second, harking back to these early Season 1 episodes, besides to a much more heightened diploma. Within the pilot, Logan has a stroke, throwing the household and firm into chaos. He’s largely absent for many of these preliminary episodes, leaving everybody else to try their energy strikes (largely unsuccessfully). Clearly, a lot has modified three seasons later, each within the present itself and our relationship to those characters. The sensible factor about this present is the way it at all times connects the dots — and the way the extra issues change, the extra issues keep the identical. — Marina

I additionally assume there shall be a murder investigation, as a result of I believe Logan might need been killed. And I believe everyone seems to be a suspect, including fireplace to the already current rivalries and energy performs all through. — Candice

Whew, Candice, I didn’t consider that, however I might be residing for that storyline. — Erin

I Hate How A lot I Truly Sort Of Really feel For These Idiots

Each season, we’ve gotten somewhat second of unity from the Roy siblings (minus the eldest son!).
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'Succession' Moments That Now Dwell Lease-Free In Our Heads

“Visually aggravating” is humorous as a result of it’s true. Additionally, I’m pocketing this line for future use.

This isn’t the precise quote, however that is how I heard it and the way I'll at all times hear it: “Hello dad, simply calling to ask should you're a cunt? Cool, hit me again whenever you get this. Xoxo.” Once more, Roman making an attempt to make a play — any play — for energy, ever. Then he can’t deal with the truth that he even tried, and on the time that he did. — Candice

I do really feel unhealthy for Roman that these have been possible his final phrases to his father, and it'll most likely hang-out him eternally. I hate (but in addition love) that this present someway makes me really feel (considerably) unhealthy for these idiots! — Marina
It’s a extremely fast alternate, however when Shiv stated to Greg, “Don’t contact me!” I laughed so laborious. He actually is visually aggravating and mustn't simply assume folks need to be round him. — Candice

Tom saying, “What the fuck?!” then roasting Kerry for smiling (throughout mid-schock, thoughts you) like “she caught a foul ball” at a baseball sport? Completely despatched me. I felt responsible for laughing, but it surely was so humorous. The writers’ capacity to carry levity to such a traumatic expertise is unmatched. — Ruth

What’s Kerry’s deal? Was she with Logan, when he, you realize? Is that why she’s form of giggly? A part of it's after all shock, however once more, this present is so sensible at creating suspense and pressure out of what we don’t see. — Marina
For actual, what is Kerry’s deal, although? She is homicide suspect primary for me. — Candice

I can’t recover from Karl saying to Karolina, when she says to inform Matsson that Logan shall be “delayed”: “Oh, he’s closely fucking delayed!” — Marina

Tom saying, “I misplaced my protector,” after Logan dies, to Greg. However after all in the identical breath, he’s telling Greg to go to the workplace and delete recordsdata off his pc. Tom is ALWAYS fascinated by easy methods to defend himself. — Erin

Additionally, was Logan actually his protector? Uh, no. It’s actually humorous how they've all considered their relationships with Logan, versus the truth. And Tom is rarely not going to Tom. The one place he has energy is pushing Greg round, as a result of that's such low-hanging fruit. — Candice

The Vogue On ‘Succession’ At all times Tells Us About A Lot Extra Than Simply Type

Erin, you introduced up a extremely glorious level in a facet dialog in regards to the outfits the Roy siblings have been sporting: They appeared like they have been dressed for a funeral at Connor’s wedding ceremony! I observed that Shiv was sporting all black, however genuinely thought it was to distinction Willa sporting white. We will recall that at her mom’s wedding ceremony, Shiv wore this white, floral ensemble and an enormous hat, a transparent wedding ceremony faux-pas — and certain did this to spite her mom. (She even stated she had hoped her mom was the one who died.) One in all my favourite type accounts @successionfits identified that sis was prepared for a funeral, and he or she didn’t even comprehend it. As I wrote final season, garments are by no means simply garments; they’re automobiles for storytelling and integral to the plot.
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Past The Logan Of It All, A Lot Occurred In This Episode

I actually need to know what’s subsequent for Gerri. I assume she stays on since Logan’s lifeless now however, who is aware of with these folks? I nonetheless need her to return out on prime and actually stick it to Roman and the remainder of Waystar Royco, or, no matter it’s about to be referred to as now. — Erin

I puzzled about Gerri too, as a result of she type of misplaced her job. However, I really feel like she's going to actively attempt to regain energy inside the firm. And truthfully, her competitors is… Effectively, there isn't any competitors except you depend blood rights. — Candice

I absolutely count on Gerri to get her lick again. I see her blackmailing Roman with their illicit textual content exchanges to get her function again within the firm (bear in mind what she stated within the trailer about going public?). Additionally, I’m ready for Marsha to pop up once more for the funeral. —Ruth

When Connor requested Willa if she was marrying him for a motive moreover the cash, I stated to my TV, “Be for actual, Connor.” Fascinating for him to even ask the query, as a result of I didn’t assume he cared both manner. However I discovered her response additionally fascinating. Like, it wasn’t a no, but it surely wasn’t a non-no, both. As a result of, I imply, actually. — Candice

Additionally! That story about Connor and cake and his mother going to a psychological well being facility! At first I used to be like ~ after all ~ Connor is trippin’ in regards to the “looney cake.” I really like that the present, even in its last episodes, continues to be discovering methods to inform us extra about these characters’ again tales. — Erin

Sure, Connor’s childhood trauma re: Logan sending his mother to a psychological well being facility is repeatedly alluded to earlier within the present. On this last season, I’d been questioning what different particulars we’d get about that incident. And naturally, it occurred right here!

Additionally, the face Willa (Justine Lupe) makes when Kendall tells her. It’s half horror, half anguish, and half “after all my husband-to-be had a fucked up childhood!” Man, I really like this present and the way each single individual is simply giving it their all. — Marina
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The Roy Household Responses To That Dying Had been Darkly Hilarious

I discovered the episode darkly hilarious as a result of neither the siblings nor the prolonged people in Logan’s camp know what to do with themselves with out him. For the siblings significantly, hating their dad — and concurrently desirous to impress their dad — was their complete persona. — Candice

It’s a testomony to the brilliance of the present that I discovered myself laughing. In fact, they might discover a solution to make this humorous, like when the siblings are all debating whether or not the massive man is in actual fact lifeless.

Few exhibits have this stage of precision within the appearing, the writing, the digicam angles, the eye to element in the best way every shot is framed, what’s stated, what isn’t stated, what’s proven, what isn’t proven, all the pieces! I can't cease marveling on the consistency and specificity of, as an illustration, how every sibling's response to the information is precisely what you'd count on, as you stated, Candice. Additionally, of their responses and the best way they speak to Logan on the very finish, we see how feelings and vulnerability stay, as ever, so international to them. After they say the phrases, it is like they're making an attempt on one thing that does not match and rapidly taking it off. — Marina

I discovered that particularly to be true about Roman, who can't cope. And Kieran Culkin was such a standout on this episode. — Candice

Sure, unbelievable work! When he’s on the telephone with Logan on the finish, it looks as if he may really say the phrases: “I really like you.” However he doesn’t even try to get it out, after which throws the telephone down. "No, sorry, I do not know the way to do this!" Simply an unbelievable efficiency.

As at all times, not one of the Roy siblings “know easy methods to do” feelings, and every of these actors simply performs that so brilliantly in their very own particular methods. — Marina

When Kendall says, “I can’t forgive you,” I misplaced it. The emotion in that second for me was a lot. After which I believe he says I really like you sooner or later. By this time, I used to be like, Y’ALL NEED TO GO GET SHIV. After which I used to be like, oh, and I assume Connor too. Rattling, even I neglect in regards to the eldest son. — Erin

Connor is extraordinarily forgettable. — Candice

I additionally thought Matthew Macfadyen gave an unbelievable efficiency within the episode. He someway managed to maintain calm amid the chaos, which I really feel like we frequently see Tom railing on Greg or being flustered going at it with Shiv, so this was a pleasant facet to see of him. — Erin

Although, he does nonetheless handle to make enjoyable of Cousin Greg (after which apologizes quietly).

“What’s on the backside of your stocking, Greg, huh? An outdated man who fucking hated you!”

“Tom, man. Simple, dude!” — Marina

The second when Shiv type of lets her head fall on Tom’s chest was actually fascinating to me. Then, seconds later, she pulls away. — Candice

When Shiv requested Tom, “Are you simply being good to me?” I knew it was severe. Like…these individuals are not poster kids for altruism within the slightest. And when Connor stated, “He by no means even preferred me,” my coronary heart lowkey shattered. Lest we neglect Roman’s final phrases to his father being, “Are you a cunt?” That might hang-out me eternally.

Then, when he expressed to Gerri that he was unhappy — a primary for him — she was principally unaffected, as a result of they fired her mere minutes earlier than. The writers, forged and crew did a wonderful job of conveying the sheer mayhem and grief that transpires whenever you obtain that sort of name concerning a liked one.

Seeing every sibling course of their grief and trauma in that second was heart-wrenching. It’s episodes like this which are the rationale I’m a TV gal over a movie gal. (Sorry not sorry.) In a mere hour, they’ve managed to convey extra emotion and inform a compelling story higher than a few of these ridiculous 3-hour movies. I couldn’t look away. — Ruth

Additionally, I extremely advocate all people go watch that post-episode function on HBO Max. The director of this episode, Mark Mylod, explains how they pulled off you-know-what sequence within the center, and it’s completely astonishing. Kieran Culkin describes it as, like, “a one-act play on a ship,” and it actually is. — Marina

I’m type of within the minority right here that I don’t really feel any substantial empathy or grief for any of those characters, as a result of I don’t assume it’s actual in the best way that individuals usually grieve — on the lack of anyone. So, when Connor stated that his dad by no means actually preferred him, I instantly thought, “Sure, lastly, the reality. That could be a true factor he stated, and I want all of the siblings would come to this realization.” — Candice
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Our Preliminary Reactions & Uncooked Feelings About WTF Simply Occurred

Contemplating that this episode aired on Easter Sunday, I used to be blissful to see on Twitter that I used to be not the one one who thought that Logan would completely rise once more. — Candice

Similar, Candice. When Tom stated Logan was “very, very sick,” I assumed: Is that this a joke? Is that this like Logan asking Roman: “Are you a sicko?” Is that this like the massive man shedding it through the UTI incident at that chaotic shareholders assembly? After which, it slowly dawned on me — and us all — that no, that is actually, actually taking place! And they're actually doing this in Episode 3! A lot of this for me shouldn't be that it occurred, however the explicit timing of it, which none of us anticipated. My god, we're very lucky to dwell within the age of this present, is a thought I hold having. — Marina

LMAO, Candice that's hilarious. I additionally stored considering Tom was gonna name them again and say OK, he really IS nonetheless respiratory. I actually was not ready to be crying for the Roys. However a coronary heart assault storyline gonna get me each time! — Erin

It made the episode further hilarious to me as a result of they have been FLOUNDERING over this information. All I might assume was, “He’s wanting down at y’all and cackling.” And once I got here to phrases with the truth that he actually was lifeless on the finish of the episode … I nonetheless thought the identical factor. — Candice

One individual tweeted, “Logan dying on Easter is the easiest way to ship the satan again to hell.” Then, somebody compiled a “Logan Roy celebration of life” clip, which consisted of him saying “Fuck off” in, like, 10 totally different fonts. I’m gonna miss that evil little man. — Ruth

Talking Of Credit score…

The arbitrary selectiveness with which HBO doles out “Succession” screeners — and even PR merch — irks the hell out of me. However, I've to offer it to the parents on the Los Angeles Instances for his or her faux obituary for Logan Roy. Whether or not they acquired superior screeners or not, I completely cackled once I learn it.

Some Credit score The place Credit score Is Due

Earlier than we get into it, some intel that makes an entire lot extra sense now: Final week, HBO despatched a few of us reporters a cryptic electronic mail about how they have been being very selective when it comes to who acquired screeners for this episode. This, after all, made us surprise what huge factor was going to occur at Connor and Willa's wedding ceremony that they didn't need spoiled. Erin — as I recall, you thought one thing very unhealthy was going to occur to Logan. And at the beginning of this season, I stated I strongly felt Logan was going to die someday this season as a result of it might imply a full-circle second for the present. So partial credit score to us, I assume!

However clearly, I do not assume anybody noticed this coming in Episode 3, of all locations. What a ballsy transfer to do that in Episode 3! I can't recover from it. — Marina Fang

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