Beneath is the transcript from an interview with Alex Holder, a filmmaker, that aired on Sunday, July 10, 2022 on Face the Nation.
Beneath is the transcript from an interview with Alex Holder, a filmmaker, that aired on Sunday, July 10, 2022 on Face the Nation.
ROBERT COSTA. Over the past weeks of Trump's presidency, which included the assault on the Capitol, Alex Holder, a British filmmaker, had behind-the scenes entry to Trump and his circle of pals as a part of a documentary. The committee investigating the assault subpoenaed the footage that Holder's crew had gathered. Investigators interviewed Holder to try to piece collectively the occasions. Immediately's Discovery+ premiere of Unprecedented, a three-part documentary sequence by Alex Holder, is stay. He can be right here this morning. Alex, good morning.
ALEX HOLDER Morning.
ROBERT COSTA - Your documentary has highly effective footage from the January sixth violence. Intensely, your documentary additionally options the Trump household. Is there any guilt?
HOLDER: In my interactions with them, I do not suppose so. HOLDER: I feel President Trump doubled down on his place after I interviewed him at Mar a Lago. He even stated that protesters entered the Capitol on January 6 as a result of they believed the election had been stolen or that another person instructed them. With respect to his kids, they refused to debate January 6. It's for others to determine what their silence means.
ROBERT COSTA. You and your crew captured this unimaginable second in January 2021, when Vice President Pence has to face a call relating to whether or not or to not invoke the twenty fifth Modification. Let's take an in-depth have a look at this second.
SOT ON TAP: Pelosi: I'm becoming a member of the Senate Democratic chief in calling for the Vice President's resignation by instantly invoking twenty fifth Modification. (break) The Congress is perhaps able to proceed with impeachment if the vp and cupboard fail to behave.
Pence: 7:48?
Employees: That is what I bought. It was not out there to the Home members till some time in the past.
Pence: Yeah, glorious.
Pence: Zack, print me a hardcopy of the itinerary for my journey house. I'm at all times optimistic about America.
Imagine that America's biggest days are but forward. That perception continues to be mine."
(Editor's Be aware: A spokesperson for Pence denied Holder's description of the scene. He stated that Pence was reacting to affirmation that Speaker Pelosi had rejected her try to invoke the twenty fifth Modification.
ROBERT COASTA: What had been you capable of see behind the scenes of the January sixth committee's assembly?
ALEX HOLDER : That day was fairly extraordinary. We at the moment are six days after January sixth's occasions. We noticed issues within the corridors, at desks that had been identified to be upended and chairs exterior as they had been transferring out for the brand new administration. There was a really depressed, dour temper within the constructing at that second. The vp's aides had been additionally there, however we weren't whispering. It was very uncomfortable. The Vice President then walks in and he sits down. That is in all probability as a result of that day he was probably the most well-known man on the planet. This was as a result of it was all about twenty fifth Modification and whether or not or not he would invoke this process. It was a tremendous day. He sat down on the chair, together with his assistant holding every telephone. Our Director of Pictures additionally noticed it from the Speaker's Workplace. We captured the second and in addition the aftermath. We had been actually strolling by way of historical past as we made this documentary. I hope you'll watch it and witness these wonderful moments unfold.
ROBERT COSTA - You had been strolling by way of the historical past. You had been once more with Trump's household, and also you forged them many times as a household, but in addition as a model. It is a model that may't settle for defeat. Are you satisfied that the previous president will run once more
ALEX HOLDER (Okay, I don’t know if I heard it or not): I imply, I've been near him. He tends to not do the identical factor twice if he fails. The rationale I imagine that's the case, because the sequence reveals, it's all concerning the model. Trump is all concerning the phrase Trump. The affiliation of Trump to failure is one thing he can't settle for and his kids cannot. He wouldn't settle for the chance that it would occur once more or that he may fail once more. He is perhaps prepared to take the prospect. He won't take the danger. We'll see. He says that we'll see.
ROBERT COASTA: You talked to President Trump about democracy. What was the results of that dialog?
ALEX HOLDER - I do not suppose he understands what it means. He was there in entrance of me within the White Home on, you see, 4 to 5 days after his personal Legal professional Normal stated that there isn't a proof to again his claims of election fraud. He is given me many various explanation why there are election points and how you can intervene. We'd like brave and courageous judges. This is not a person that basically understands democracy.
ROBERT COSTA - You've got in all probability spent extra time with Donald Trump Jr., Eric Trump, and Ivanka Trump than anybody exterior of the Trump household. Do you suppose they wish to hold the Trump model alive politically? What if not 2024? Sooner or later? They're yours.
ALEX HOLDER : I do not suppose they'd. Don Jr. He actually got here throughout in my interactions with him. He'll have the ability to present that he's all for politics, I imagine. He additionally provides an interesting background to his political awakening. Eric is not going to see it as a lot, and Ivanka might, however I imagine that it's there. These sequence present the household's dynamic and the way it works. It reveals the kids's relationship with their father, in addition to the relationships between them.
ROBERT COSTA - Alex Holder, we're so grateful to your go to. We respect it.
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